CO129-339 - Acting Governor May Governor Nathan - 1907 [1-3] — Page 85

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Mr Guterres: It is false.

By Dr Atkinson

Q. You don't need it if they have a paper?

Mr Guterres: I do not know.

Q. If they produce that paper, that is enough?

A. I had a big row once over that.

Mr Gompertz: Do you mean to say that the paper was not presented by the same man on both occasions?

Mr Guterres: It was a different man.

Mr Gompertz: It was presented to you by a short man, an old man, therefore you refused to pay because you thought he was not the right person?

Mr Guterres: Now I know.

Mr Gompertz: What made you think this was not the right person?

Mr Guterres: Because according to the captain's articles it is the master's boy and not an old man.

Mr Gompertz: How about the short man?

Mr Guterres: The man on the articles is only 28 years of age, and the one who presented the account is over 30. That is the reason I did not pay then.

Mr Sercombe Smith: Do you mean to tell the Council that you turned up the ship's articles to compare the age of the man to whom the money ought to be paid?

Mr Guterres: No, sir, not at all.

Mr Hewett: You refused to pay on the production of this paper?

Mr Guterres: I did and told him to bring someone from the captain and I would pay him on Monday.

Mr Thomson: You said Sai Yau?

Mr Guterres: Yes. I said Sai Yau or someone else. There is no occasion to refuse payment if he came in the proper time.

Mr Hewett: When he came the second time did you see only one man?

Mr Guterres: Only one man.

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Mr Guterres: It is false. By Dr Atkinson Q. You don't need it if they have a paper? Mr Guterres: I do not know. Q. If they produce that paper, that is enough? A. I had a big row once over that. Mr Gompertz: Do you mean to say that the paper was not presented by the same man on both occasions? Mr Guterres: It was a different man. Mr Gompertz: It was presented to you by a short man, an old man, therefore you refused to pay because you thought he was not the right person? Mr Guterres: Now I know. Mr Gompertz: What made you think this was not the right person? Mr Guterres: Because according to the captain's articles it is the master's boy and not an old man. Mr Gompertz: How about the short man? Mr Guterres: The man on the articles is only 28 years of age, and the one who presented the account is over 30. That is the reason I did not pay then. Mr Sercombe Smith: Do you mean to tell the Council that you turned up the ship's articles to compare the age of the man to whom the money ought to be paid? Mr Guterres: No, sir, not at all. Mr Hewett: You refused to pay on the production of this paper? Mr Guterres: I did and told him to bring someone from the captain and I would pay him on Monday. Mr Thomson: You said Sai Yau? Mr Guterres: Yes. I said Sai Yau or someone else. There is no occasion to refuse payment if he came in the proper time. Mr Hewett: When he came the second time did you see only one man? Mr Guterres: Only one man.
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Mr Guterres: It is false.

By Dr Atkinson

Q. You don't need if they have a paner?

Mr Guterres: F.do not know.

Q. If they produce that paper, that is enough?

A. I had a big row once over that.

Mr Gompertz : Do you mean to say that the paper was not

sented by the same Ban on both occasions?

it one

was a different man.

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Dre-

Mr Guterres At half past

:

Mr Gompertz It was presented to you by a short man, an old

man, therefore Vou refused to pay be cause you thought

he was not the right person?

Mr Guterres : Now I know.

Mr Gompertz

Mr Guterres

What made you think this was not the right person?

: Because according to the captain's articles it

is the master's boy and not an old man.

Mr Gompertz: How about the short man?

Mr Guterres The man on the articles is only 28 years of age,

and the one whe presented the account is over 30. That

is the reason I did not pay then.

Mr Sercombe Smith : Do you mean to tell the Council that you

turned up the ship's articles

to compare the are of the

man to whom the money ourht to be paid?

Mr Guterres : No, ser, not at all.

Mr Hewett: You refused to pay on the production of this naper?

Mr Guterres 1 did and told him tobring some

one from the

captain and I would pay him on Monday.

Mr Thomson : You said Sai Yau?

Mr Guterres :

Yes.

I said Sai Yau or some one else. The re

is no occasion to refuse payment if he came in the proper

time.

Mr Hewett : When he came the second time did you see only one

man?

Mr Guterres : Only one man.

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